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Phantomwes
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« on: May 25, 2008, 02:37:10 pm »

  Hey there , just wondering if any of you have experience with the Check Valve , the mod that lets you shoot like 2 extra shots after you drop out your 12gr. I ordered on this past week and the little rubber o-ring kept blowing up between the ball bearing so i never got my extra shots. adjusted the spring and everything , never did get it to work. Just wanted to see if anyone elese was having problems with them of if anyone knew any good mods to do the same kinda thing.
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  OH and ryan at wevo got me hooked up with a sweet pink anno phantom this week BIG UP TO WEVO.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 03:29:09 pm »

What configuration are you putting a check-valve in? The drop out or a bucket changer?
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 05:06:50 pm »

Congrats on the new phantom!  I've never been a big fan of check valves for recent (past 10 years) use.  Back when everyone used 12grams you could hear the hiss of someone changing theirs which meant you should rush them.  In games today with all the electo toters pounding bunkers into gelatin submission no one will notice the hiss.  Of course answer the above question and we can at least help you get it set up. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 02:46:16 pm »

I'm useing it in a bucket changer. It's a vertical air adapter on a vsc.
  Thanks for replying Smiley   and im playing with guy's who play pump for the most part , and they can hear it trust me LOL.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 09:08:24 pm »

Here's one I made for a bucket setup. One of the first things that you will need to do is to make sure that the surface that the o-ring is going to rest on is smooth. You can take a small dowel that is as close a perfect fit inside the hole as possible, and put some grinding compound or very fine wet sand paper on the end of it and polish the surface that the oring is going to sit on.

Some parts that I have came smooth enough to work, and others didn't. If it doesn't seal it won't work right.

Here are the parts I used. The tiny o-rings are from re-build kits you can get for smart part on-off valves. They fit just right and are a high enough durometer to work for a check valve.

I got the ball bearings and compression springs at a Sears Hardware. You need them to be a very close fit. I took the base of the bucket changer in when I bought the parts.



Next drop the o-ring in.



Followed by the ball bearing.



The last thing is the spring. You will have to play around with the length of the spring until you find the right size. You may need to cut it. You may need to bend the end of the spring on both ends, so it doesn't creep over the ball bearing and jamb things up. Or get snagged on the the pin depressor on the ASA end.

If it's too strong, it won't let the CO2 in. If it's to short, it won't stop the CO2 in the valve from leaking back.

It really only serves to hold the ball bearing in place on the o-ring. The check valve uses the pressure of the CO2 in the valve to hold it closed. That's not the springs job. The spring should not interfere with the valve being able to recharge. If it does, you will lose shots per 12 gram, or it won't work at all.

Get a couple of the springs. They are cheap, and you will probably go through a couple until you get it right. At least I did.

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 06:45:21 pm »

  Thanks  ton man. i'll be hiting sears this weekend to get that stuff , and ill find a o-ring somewhere. Cheesy again many thanks.
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